Where the Dagger Is Not
(Updated: May 30, 2010)
Partial list of Questor Guesses (that are not at the right location)
[I am receiving about 150 Questor guesses per month. Here are a few of them so you won't duplicate the search. Several Questors are starting to just send Google map Quest locations which is acceptable. Remember 15 feet from the location is acceptable, but again a general building or park location does not get the prize. I do read all the guesses submitted, both to website Response@questmystery.com and when they are sent to the Publisher at AddisonHighsmith@gmail.com. Several of the guesses are deeply thought out and I appreciate the earnest effort, and sorry, because of volume, my response seem somewhat terse and deflating. I sincerely appreciate all true Questors. -SG]
Dear Questors,
I appreciate all the guesses as to the dagger location. Here again for the process of elimination are some of the submitted guesses that are not correct. SG
I want to thank you for participating in the Quest Mystery, and especially to those hundred of Questors who have submitted guesses as to the dagger's location. No guess is too unreasonable. All submissions are regarded as serious since you are taking the Quest serious enough to participate. Below are examples of past guesses. Because there have been so many guesses submitted we can only list a few at this time but will list other guesses in the future.
Let me reiterate several points in the questing: (1) the Questor needs to directly find the dagger or have one's guess to be within 15 feet. Merely saying, 'it is in such-and-such cemetery' is too general. (2) Feel free to send along the logic on how you arrived at a Quest Guess. There are some very intelligent Questors, and some of their ideas certainly need to be considered in creating the next Quest Mystery. (3) You have to read the book to find the dagger. The Questor who slept with Vegas Die under their pillow to gain a 'feel' for the prize's location, or the Questor who is using the I-Ching in their search are to be commended for relying on unseen faith, but please read the book. (4) And, in reviewing the dagger's location it is still holds true that the clues in the book can lead a person not living in Las Vegas to make a long-distant, arm-chair, educated guess to within 15 feet of the dagger's location. Nevertheless, if the Quest goes into the third year without dagger discovery I may put out several visible clues that might expedite the dagger's discovery but would require Questors to visit Las Vegas, but not now. The clues you need are in the book. The hidden dagger is still out there.
The following communications to author and/or publisher are: where the dagger is not.
Nothing Is As It Seems Keep on Questing
Stephen Grogan, Author
______________________________________________________________________________
Here are some (not all) Questor guesses from January through May
The dagger is within 20 feet of the truck scales at the Sloan Weigh
Station off Highway I-15 northbound at Exit 33 at mile marker 25.5.
The dagger is within 20 feet of the rear exit of Frank Melaerts Jewelers at
421 S. Decatur Blvd, Las Vegas, NV.
The dagger is within 20 feet of the entrance to Three Foot Ninja...A Design
Collective at 7310 Smoke Ranch, Suite T, Las Vegas
The dagger is within 20 feet of the front marquee for Landry's Seafood at
2610 W. Sahara Ave. Las Vegas, NV 89102.
The dagger is within 20 feet of the shared alleyway between 7-11 and the
former Kilroy's #1 at 1021 S. Buffalo Drive, Las Vegas, NV.
The dagger is within 20 feet of the bleachers for the smaller baseball
diamond field located along E. Vegas Valley Drive of Valley High School where
the Mad Dog used to pitch in his youth.
The dagger is printed in *The Las Vegas Sun* daily newspaper.
The dagger is located within 20 feet of the A'gaci storefront within the
Boulevard Mall or Meadows Mall.
The dagger is hidden within 20 feet of Dale Chihuly's exhibit of blue
glass tubes on the south walkway leading to Aria Hotel in Las Vegas, NV.
Is there a dagger at the entrance to the Bourbon Street Cabaret at the Orleans Casino?
Is the dagger at the tortoise exhibit at the Clark County Government building at the pyramid?
The Dagger is the "Las Vegas sun"
Location 2275 Corporate Circle Henderson, Nevada, Suite 300
Is there a dagger at the corner of Cameron and Harmon
Is there a dagger at any corner of the property;
Harmon and Arville
Arville and Tropicana
Tropicana and Cameron
[I think these guesses are too generalized and should be disqualified as they do not speak to 15-20 ft from a specific location-- author]
Is there a dagger at the Palms cemetary on Main at:
The Pearl Harbor Memorial
or
the gravesite of "Colonel" Tom Parker
I am taking a guess at any dagger being located on or near the NW corner of the formerly known as Federal Court house building at 301 Stewart Ave. This is now the old post office and soon to be cultural center
I would like to put in a guess that the treasure dagger is located at the Spinning Red Slipper located between the El Cortez and Mamacita's Cuban Mexican Restaurant on Fremont Street
Guessing any dagger to be within 15-20' of the "Green House" Howard Hughes five room cottage on the KLAS (Channel 8) property off of DI/Channel 8 drive.
The treasure you have hidden is amongst the other treasures within 15' of Moosolini (mounted moosehead on the wall)! At Battista's Hole in the wall 4041 Audrie, Las Vegas, NV This is really a place of treasures.
But I have another guess. At the ckark county government building, there is a "tower" to the NE of the stage. On top of the "tower" is a metal rod. Not sure what the metal rod is, but is it a dagger? If not, I guess down the center of the tower is a dagger.
Is there a dagger in the empty lot off Sirius between Fontainbleu and the I-15. There is an access road there going south toward Aldebaran [too generalized---sg]
I believe the treasure is located within 15' of the bar at Battista's Hole in the wall located at 4041 Audrie St Las Vegas...because it is NOT in the bathroom!
The treasure is in the "secret room" at Capo's fine Italian dining 5795 W. Tropicana Las Vegas
Mr. Grogan,
I have a question regarding "guesses" of the location of the treasure dagger. If a person guesses a building such as a retail store or restaurant as the location of the dagger such as McDonalds on Charleston across from UMC, and that's where it was, would you allow that as a legitimate guess and award them the prize?
The reason I ask is if there was a Questor who had limited means and resources but they did their research and gave the reason they came to guess that location, but they didn't know the layout of the property, would they be able to collect? There is obviously more than 15 feet between the drive-thru window and the men's bathroom so does that stand as far as a guessing a building or suite in a strip mall? By the way, I enjoy the questing and have learned much more about Las Vegas history by doing research. The history behind the history is very informative about how some of Las Vegas came to be what it is, and without questing, there wouldn't be much reason to research the things I have...thank you.
Response: I would have to say that specifically you need to be within 15 feet of the prize dagger, and in that presumption, if you are that close in your guess, for all intent, you probably have the exact idea in mind where the dagger is, and should be able to locate it directly. As for armchair Questors, those not in town, there are several Questors who I have a high opinion of who are honest and reputable. If you think you have a strong guess, based on book clues, and/or the black daggers, then send your guess to me, and let me know you are contacting a local Questor to check out the location. That should protect you from anything not proper. You might however offer a finder's fee, like ___ % to the local Questor for helping you locate the dagger.
Thank you for participating and best wishes in the Quest.
S.P. Grogan
Author

Okay I really think I have this thing figured out. (How many times have you heard that?) I am submitting this to you and will head to this location later this evening, before they close to investigate it, because
1) I'm not sure how big the store is, can't get within 15ft.
2) What could be better than actually finding it in person, and recognizing it as the much sought after silver dagger?? Nothing.
I think the dagger is located at: Alternate Reality Comics
4800 S Maryland Pkwy Suite # D
LV, NV 89119
Here's how I came to this solution:
Starting with the major clue the author has consistently been repeating: "Nothing is as it seems."
That seemed the most significant, and in my mind seemed a logical choice that we weren't looking for an actual dagger, and that is most likely the reason it hasn't been found yet. Clever author.
Ok so I began googling silver dagger to see what else it could possibly be. I came across the literary award given to crime writers and thought how perfect that was, but after trying everyway possible to link it to a location in LV, hit a dead end. Then came across an old post on the forum that someone previously had also had that thought.
Just couldn't get past that idea that it was not a real dagger though so kept searching. Found an old comic book character named "Silver Dagger" but couldn't imagine how something so random could be narrowed down to a location in LV. So I began reading about him.
Silver Dagger's character used to be a cardinal in the church. He goes around killing people with his silver daggers. He believes he is righteous, acting as "an avenging angel" which Katherine was described as in the book.
This seemed to be a very good suspect to me, but how can I find him from the book? I started going back through the book to see if there was anything to support my theory. Biggie" # 1: Eric gives Owen a comic book he drew. ( I almost jumped for joy.)
There seem to be many biblical references but I remember thinking it was odd when I read the book originally cause Katherine told Owen after her confession "Old fashioned bible justice is the code of the west." I found that strange at the time, but seems to fit now.
I even noticed someone making wolf sounds at the final shoot out in the garden, (Silver Dagger fought the Wolfman in comic book), and also felt that some of Hi and Jinx song lyrics could be fantasy, and referring to comic book scenes. Those things admittedly could be a stretch.
I think there also may have been a reference in the book about a "written quote" which happens to be a line from Silver Dagger's favorite quotes, but I didn't have time to search whole book for it, and wasn't sure if I imagined it or not?
However I felt I had enough to keep going down this trail. Just wasn't sure how. I figured comic book stores would be the next logical step, but there is so many, and there had to be something to lead me there I thought, couldn't just be random.
I did more searching, even found cover of comic book with Silver Dagger and other characters depicted on tarot cards, and thought it may be a solution to napkin puzzle, and a way to find store. No luck.
Kept searching. I went to Marvel's site (Comic Book Publisher) and they had a link to find comic book stores. So put in my zip and got a list of 5.
When I saw the name of the store, Alternate Reality, I immediately thought "nothing is as it seems"!! OMG! So I went to their website to learn more. Thats when I found the owners wife is Katherine!! I couldn't believe it. It all made sense. Find the killer with the dagger!
This seems to be a very solid conclusion to me. As I said, I'm going to eat dinner or go there shortly, and if this is coincidence I will just die. Too crazy. It has to be answer. I'm hoping.
Other Guesses:
THE LOCATION OF THE DAGGER IS****LORENZI PARK AT 3333 WASHINGTON NEXT
TO THE PARDE FRANCISCO GARCES MONUMENT****

Following the toffee...Mariposa = Butterfly. The dagger is within 15 feet
of the private entrance or elevator (lift) to the Mariposa Restaurant on
the 2nd Floor of Neiman-Marcus store near its Fur Department within the
Fashion Show Mall at 3200 Las Vegas Boulevard South, Las Vegas, Nevada 89109.

Arepas Yummo. Love 'em! What's more New York than a bodega that serves
food. The dagger is within 15 feet of Oiga, Mire, Vea Colombian Cuisine, 2580
S Decatur Blvd, Las Vegas, NV 89102.

Central-American restaurant in a back alley that has all the numbers: 411
and 911. It is near UNLV. Need to speak a little Spanish to order. Rice and
Beans with any type of meat sounds like heaven to me.
The dagger is within 15 feet of El Rincon Catracho, 4110 S Maryland
Parkway, Las Vegas, NV 89119.

This "undercover" Greek cafe is near Famous Footwear (Touch of Nina). A
former New Yorker has ventured into a Greek McDonalds concept. The cafe has
a fountain and cloth banners streaming above diners. The dagger is within
15 feet of Market Grill Cafe at 7920 W. Tropical Parkway # 170, Las Vegas,
NV 89149.

THERE ARE TWO DAGGERS!
1. Spiral staircase to a basement bar. Not in a casino! Under it!
Public Wine Collection. Not flying! A "flight" of wine. This dagger is within 15
feet of the staircase leading to THE WINE CELLAR within the Masquerade
Village under the Rio Hotel & Casino at 3700 W. Flamingo. The Wine Cellar is
in a basement which can only be accessed by taking a spiral staircase to
the bar's hiding place.
2. Glass exterior elevator to Spiral Staircase. Walk one flight down to
Voodoo Lounge Bar/club. Not in a casino! Way above it! You are flying
high! An ultra-extreme staircase. This dagger is within 15 feet of the
spiral staircase between the 50th and 51st floors of the Rio Hotel, 3700 W.
Flamingo, Las Vegas, NV.

I sent you my answer before but no response. Maybe I was not exact enough.
The dagger, "The Gadget" Atomic Bomb a 1957 Magnetic Post Card of the 1957 Miss Atomic Bomb "the Blonde Bomb
Shell"
Located at the Atomic Testing Museum on 755 E. Flamingo Rd. Las Vegas
Outside in the parking lot attached to the Oblong 15 ft, high steel stem
coming out of the ground holding the show case light sign of The Atomic
Testing Museum.

Alice and Wonderland and cupcakes... a perfect way to end a killing
spree..The dagger is within 15 feet of Mad Hatter Cupcakes at 4195 S. Grand
Canyon Parkway Ste. 105 in Las Vegas, NV.

Since CHP has other water features (i.e. frog misters and wading pad), we
cannot rule out the Adventure playground. The kids area is pure "Alice in
Wonderland". There are painted steps, huge caterpillars, butterflies,
mushrooms, daisies, and toad stools. There are even talking tubes each called Bob
(i.e. Mechanical, Space and Human). Parents can monitor kids from
observation deck above the tot lot. At the entrance to the play area, there is an
overhead steel flower box, which is color-stained.
The dagger is located within Centennial Hills Park Complex, 7101 N.
Buffalo Drive, Las Vegas, NV.
(1) within 15 feet of the Observation Deck overlooking the Tot Lot at
Adventure Playground OR
(2) within 15 feet of the overhead steel flower box at the entrance
to the kids playground area.

Following the rugs...Kathleen is going to send flowers in form of a knot
garden (i.e. parterre). Although there are two locations for the McCarthy
Group, only one shares space with Carpets N More... Therefore, the dagger is
within 15 feet of A French Bouquet Flower Shop at 3265 E. Tropicana, #A-1,
Las Vegas, NV 89121.

Here is my solution:
HI JINX
Unlucky One Owen
WASHINGTON $ 1
LINCOLN $ 5
Which would place the dagger at I15 where Washington crosses.
Well here I am again.
The dagger is located at Firemen's Memorial Park Oakey St. and Torrey
Pines. It is the gear. Firemen's Hat and axe.

Is it in/on/around the southwestern most tree in the dagger shaped parking island in Ed Fountain Park?

Is it in/on/around the 4th palm tree east of Ed Fountain Park, on the south side of Vegas Dr.?

Is it in/on/around the southeast corner of the fence around the BMX track in Ed Fountain Park?

I think this is where to find it
36'01.33.97"N and 115'11.06.36"W
In the secret garden

Is in in the sandy area near the east fence of Ed Fountain Park (See image for exact location).

The Burning Man. Divine Femininity. Art at a hospital... the dagger is
located within 15 feet of the painted Medieval Labyrinth at St. Rose Dominican
Hospital (San Martin Campus) at 8280 W. Warm Springs, Las Vegas. The
labyrinth is located on the northeast side of the hospital in the open courtyard
to the right of emergency room entrance.

Spotted the awning overhang and the birds perching above. This is a true
New York bagel shop & deli in Vegas. Legendary hang-out for celebrities and
politicians. The area may be somewhat seedy but true bagel aficinados will
walk a mile for a good bagel with lox spread.
The dagger is within 15 feet of Harries Bagelmania at 855 E. Twain Avenue,
Ste. 120, Las Vegas, Nevada.

!Se habla espanol! Little-known phenomenon or miracle in Spanish-speaking
Vegas. In a driveway covered with blue tarp ....an encased weeping virgin
with tears that allegedly have healing power standing on a moon being held
by an angel.
The dagger is within 15 feet of the encased shrine for Our Lady of
Guadalupe (the weeping virgin) located on the residential property of Juan Serrano
at 2809 Samantha Court (b/w Basin & Darby), North Las Vegas, NV.

The dagger is located within 15 feet of the Planetarium on the campus of
the Community College of Southern Nevada at 3200 E. Cheyenne Ave. N. las
vegas, Nevada.

Construction on private property with state-funded materials, equipment
and labor. *State criminal action against school administrators. The dagger
is within 15 feet of the former ranch home of William "Bob" Gilbert at
9045 Barr Avenue, Mt. Charleston, NV. [For safety reasons, not on any mountain incline, more in the valley-author]

Hi Mr. Grogan
Well here goes again but this time no explanation.
wild guess: The dagger is a single silver "CORKSCREW"
IT IS LOCATED AT "ANDRES" restaurant on 401 south 6th Street on a table in a box on the charger plate, in the Versailles room.
I believe it is the key to opening a 1777 vintage bottle of Cognac from Andres Wine cellar worth $25,000.
I like wine but I will take the money thank you.
[you realize Andre's restaurant is closed. I attended the last night opened on New Year's Eve, one year ago-author]

The dagger is located within 15 feet of the Mermaid Restaurant and Lounge
at 3333 Blue Diamond Road, Las Vegas, NV.

The dagger is located within 15 feet of the former office building of Orion
Electronics, 7251 W. Lake Mead Blvd., Las Vegas, NV.

The dagger is located within 15 feet of the corporate offices of Citadel
Broadcasting Corporation at 7201 W. Lake Mead Blvd. Las Vegas, NV 89128

The dagger is within 15 feet of Rosewood Grille (Lobster House) in the
back alley of 3763 Las Vegas Blvd. Las Vegas, NV. (located behind Walgreens
and Fatburger)

****THE LOCATION OF THE DAGGER IS****LORENZI PARK AT 3333 WASHINGTON next to the david lorenzi bust monument**** I LOOK FOWARD TO YOUR RESPONSE CONFIRMING THE LOCATION.

If Kathleen needs rehab, she will need good health coverage.......The
dagger is within 15 feet of Anthem Blue Cross, Blue Shield corporate office at
9133 W. Russell Road, Las Vegas, NV.

Multi-guesses submitted:
The Animal Foundation
Helix (Non-union)
SNSC bid depot
Goody's Cafe
Marrakech
Firefly on Paradise

There was a marathon of Questors who had by their clue analysis had guessed that the Dagger was hidden in Sunset Park, like this one:
Is it near the two trees with the DUI markers north of baseball field 13 in Sunset Park. Photos of DUI markers attached.
Finally, the author had to write a response saying the dagger was not in Sunset Park at all (and hence all of you will now have this clue information) This is the response we received:
Really?????
The "el" shaped building? The Garden of Allah? The break in the fence? Orion's belt? The "smiley face"? I could go on for quite a while, as you are likely well aware (see attached image).
The odds of coincidence are too astronomical.
So, that means...
A) It IS located in Sunset Park, I'm getting too close , you don't want the dagger found yet, and you're deliberately trying to mislead me.
or
B) You spent an AWFUL lot of time leading people to Sunset Park on a wild goose chase. To what end? A giant diversion?
or
C) The dagger is not hidden in Sunset Park, but it is CLOSE to Sunset Park, and/or clues to it's actual location are located in the park (in which case, option A would still partially apply)
or
D) Some other fourth option.
I have no reason to believe that you would flat out lie to me, so I'm going to rule out option A. Since I don't know what option D is, that leaves B and C.
If it is B, then congratulations! You have succeeded! But that doesn't help me in my quest.
So, that leaves option C. If it is C, and you're trying to lead me away from the park because it will ultimately lead me to the actual location, then I must continue searching in and around the park (unless of course you want to take option C off the table right now.) ;-)
Anywhooo... I do appreciate the feedback, and your aknowledgement of my (and my family's) hard work.
Thanks, and good luck with rest of this quest, and the next one!

A recent Questor guess. Not the right location, but the concept of lines to establish a dagger point is intriguing.

Riding in the wind literally. Go Karts....The dagger is within 15 feet of
the Sprint Kart Speedway at the Las Vegas Mini Gran Prix located at 1401 N.
Rainbow Blvd., Las Vegas, NV 89108--(between W. Vegas Drive and W.
Washington and I-95 and N. Rainbow Blvd.)

While still hunting for the squid connection (duh!...calamari)...Why not a
place that also sells seafood New York or Chicago style? Finally focused
pass Greek Isles Hotel and found Piero's up the street towards Paradise Rd.
Noticed the shrubbery growing on the front and side of the restaurant.
Mobster and Old Vegas connections galore, osso bucco, and calamari too. This
Italian restaurant used to be on Karen Street (name used for Grayson's
nurse), but later moved near the convention center. The dagger has to be here.
The dagger must be within 15 feet of Piero's Italian Cuisine at 355
Convention Center Drive, Las Vegas, NV 89109.

At long last.....The quest is over. Legendary blues funk with shells on
sand...
The dagger is within 15 feet of the Sand Dollar Blues Club at 3355 Spring
Mountain Road, Las Vegas 89109 (between Polaris Ave and Aldebaran Ave).
The dagger is near Jose Equiis' Parrot (a youcan toucan). It's near the
swirly axes in an orbit Bahrain, which is near dice on amber inside a bowed
arch. This high fan is near an old cast mister.

This off-strip hotel & casino (now in bankruptcy) is located in the heart
of LV. GIH has a history with "The Tribute to Frank, Sammy, Joey & Dean"
and "The World's Greatest Magic Show "performers. Ignite: the fire and
illusion show performs here. Debbie Reynolds once owned the hotel, which was sold
to World Wide Wrestling. Delta later used the hotel for its airline crew.
There are various life-like murals depicting a small greek village. The
dagger is within 15 feet of the entrance to the Greek Isles Hotel at 305
Convention Center Drive, Las Vegas, NV.

The dagger is within 15 feet of the front entrance to the Shrine of the
Holy Redeemer at 55 E. Reno Ave, Las Vegas, NV. 89119.
The entrance has a lattice-type awning. It's chapel is dedicated to
Mexican patron saint, Our Lady of Guadalupe. The chapel has various bronze
artwork and carvings dated centuries ago. The shrine is in proximity of McCarran
airport and just outside the strip's boundary lines. The church is also
bordered by Haven, E. Ali Baba, and Giles Streets.

After countless weeks of going through the Vegas Die book, I have reason to believe the dagger is located on or near the El Cortez Casino in Downtown Las Vegas. Can this please be confirmed so that I can search further and pinpoint the location?

Rat Pack connection. UNLV connection. Davey Pearl (boxing hall of famer).
Cheap Dive hang-out. Classic Bar of Old Vegas.
The dagger is within 15 feet of the Grinning Fish neon sign in front of
Davey's Locker at 1149 Desert Inn Road, Las Vegas, Nevada.

Addison & Highsmith! Addison is a lounge within the J.W. Marriott Las
Vegas Resort property. The resort has a waterfall and garden outside the
somewhat-hidden Ceres restaurant. Ceres is one of the smallest dwarf planets in
the Solar System. Ceres was named after the Roman goddess of the agriculture.
The dagger is within 15 feet of the outside patio for Ceres which is in
the Spa Tower located at the J.W. Marriott resort, 221 N. Rampart, Las
, Las, NV.

This has to be the place. Euro-Ghetto fabulous. Famous motel turned youth
hostel: TOD Hotel & Hostel. The dagger is located within 15 feet of the
virtually-unchanged TOD Motor Motel landmark sign at 1508 Las Vegas Blvd., Las
Vegas, Nevada.

OMG....THE SHELLS. The disassembled La Concha clam-like lobby was sent to
the Neon Graveyard. The "googie" architectural work (huge shells) of Paul
Revere Williams was thereby preserved. The various parts which look like
shells sit behind a green fence at the corner of E. McWilliams and N. Encanto
Drive.
The dagger is within 15 feet of the vacant lot on the corner of E.
McWilliams Avenue and N. Encanto Dr.

Near the Clark County 215 Frontage Road and Rainbow. Sand is everywhere
outside shopping area. Cafe has a turret (small tower), benches, and ceiling
fans in the open dining area out front. There is a "french" and "New
Orleans" connection. There's even a "Bob" Evans connection. This is the only
franchise with a full bar in Vegas.
The dagger is within 15 feet of the Mimi's Cafe at 7315 Arroyo Crossing
Parkway, Las Vegas, NV.

Is it in the sandy area near the top of the small hill east of the pond in Sunset Park (see attached image). Note, this is in the same general area as my guess on 12/27, but more than 15 feet away. I was out "dagger hunting" with the kids and got a hit with my metal detector at this location. I dug down about 6 or 7 inches and hit some rocks. The metal detector was still saying there was something in the hole, but we could not get past the rocks.
(36°3’59.70”N 115°6’42.70”W)

...in/on/near/around the large tree near the Acacia Demonstration Gardens? Approximately 36*01'48.55"N 115*00'57.65"W per Google Earth.

I believe I have narrowed down the location of the dagger to an area of Lorenzi Park. This area is where the Nevada State Museum is located (700 Twin Lakes Drive). I have been to the location now on multiple trips but have not yet purchased the $4.00 for admission to search further. I have scoured many of the trees in the area to no avail. Can you please respond and let me know if it is worthwhile to seek admission into the exhibit to help aid in my search?

Is it in/on/around the large tree in Sunset park, northeat of island, and northwest of circular picnic area (see attached image)?
Lat/Long: 36* 04' 03.66"N, 115* 06' 48.56"W

Is it in/on/under/around the center pine tree in the group of trees east of the circular picnic area in Sunset Park? (See image)
36* 04' 03.36"N 115* 06' 46.61"W

Mr Grogan,
I feel this is the solution to the dagger:
SANDS
SPIRALS
PAIRS AND THREE OF A KIND
O W E N
W A S H I N G T O N
T A G G A R T
21 WASHINGTON
Cordially

We got it. A soul food shack in a former McDonald's! There is a sweet
smell of anticipation in the air. Big Mama's legacy is dying! The
dagger is within 15 feet of Big Mama's Soul Food Rib Shack
located at 2230 W. Bonanza Road, Las Vegas, NV.

No-Access Las Vegas. Black Pioneers like Madame C.J. Walker. Hattie
McDaniel. Mantan Moreland. Woody Strode. Lena Horne. Sammy Davis. Martin L. King,
Jr. Lou Rawls. Lou Gossett. Eartha Kitt. Joe Louis. James Brown.
The dagger is within 15 feet of the unassuming Walker African-American
Museum at 705 West Van Buren Avenue, Las Vegas, Nevada.

SG
After all I have sent in and all the questing I am doing I cannot believe that it is ANGELS AND DEMONS by Dan Brown. The book not the movie.
And you say you are a novice at this? Not true.
OWEN McCombs = Meow Combs nc/143 CATa Combs dc/see de catacombs
I also get 3 St. Rose hospitals. + + +
ILLUMINATI !
DiManna DiMan Demon
Angelo Corallo Angel
Cardinals Card nails or slain
CERN
matter God
anti matter Devil
Duality two of everything the ying and yang of a balance life.
Elements: Earth opposite Air Fire opposite water.
A Rose /love opposite hate
Catacombs/Hugo's Cellar.symbol a Rose/ love/ thorns ,hate
the cross Christ / the Anti christ.
Kathleen is grace gracee? grazie/ thank you.
Chase / Holy opposite Tempest sin
How am I doing ?
Horror and Hope Crucifixtion/resurrection
"it is the truth that will set you free".
apathy is death
without darkness there is no light
without evil there is no good.
anti matter/God Particle/Creation/ Genesis.
Kathleen closed her purse and the anti que dagger disappeareed.
in browns book the anti matter cylinder was hidden in necropolis "city of the Dead" Peter's Tomb. the catacombs/cellar
HUGO"S CELLAR
CERN is in Geneva but Kholer (german was head of it)
A long stem rose with thorns is given to each lady that comes into Hugo's The rose is a symbol of love. But you can get cut on the thorns. Could the dagger be the Long Stem Rose with thorns?
Vegas would be nothing (as far as my other half is concerned) without dice
and chips. Pair of Dice on the cover. References to personalized poker
chips. Anthony C. died playing craps. The dagger is within 15 feet of
Spinetti's retail store at 810 S. Commerce Street, Las Vegas Nevada.

WOW. Sir Liberace went all out to create this place. Etched Mirrors. As
usual, what an entrance! Incredible English bar. The dagger can be found
within 15 feet of Carluccio's Tivoli Gardens at 1775 E. Tropicana Avenue, Las
Vegas, Nevada.
Totally love the retro-look of this place with vintage clothes, jewelry,
and furniture. Racetrack checkerboard front sidewalk. There is graffiti-like
art deco signage. The perimeter of the overall commercial location (from
S. Main as it joins S. Commerce) looks like a giant knife. The dagger is
within 15 feet of The Attic at 1018 S. Commerce Street, Las Vegas, Nevada.

We are beginning to see a pattern. Pioneer with big heart but mob
associations. Jewish New Yorker. Worshipped at Temple Beth Sholom. Had Aladdin and
Stardust ties. Was WW2 veteran, pilot, sportsman, realtor and humanitarian.
Helped the homeless and addicts. Ran for governor. For decades, owned a
diner, Western cab company and City Furniture store.
If all roads are leading to Tobman, then the dagger must be within 15 feet
of Grace's Hawaiian Cafe, 2129 Industrial Road, Las Vegas, Nevada (
formerly Mr. T's Diner).
In case you got really sneaky:)
There is a 21 Washington and a 21 Owens in the middle it would fall near 21 Pauite Dr. These two locations would be DF on the map:
http://tinyurl.com/ykf8o7h

Here is the Address:
6767 Spencer St
Las Vegas, NV
The dagger is Terrorism
You hid the counter Terrorism dagger or what is called the Southern Nevada Counter Terrorism Center.
Hows that. I can see it now!

So are you a senior agent for the Justice Department, In the Inspector Generals office?
No wonder you could have all this information on the Mafia,prisons, 9/11 and write on terroism. And now you make sure the gaming in Denver, 2 years, Biloxi and Las Vegas are on the up an up or is this your cover?
And I will assume you are involved with the Homeland Security Department as well. and the new fusion center in Vegas.
Secret Agent man/Owen McCombs.
We submit the irony of the this old motel as another possible location. The
dagger can be found within 15 feet of the motel sign for Par-a-dice Motel,
2217 Fremont Street, Las Vegas, NV 89101

We are still focusing on the Eric or kid connection. Thus, the quest has
led us to the irony of the hostel (hostile) location for young foreign
exchange students and visitors. The dagger is hidden within 15 feet of the blue
overhang awning at USA Hostels LV, 1322 Fremont Street, Las Vegas, Nevada.

Maybe Bob is homeless because his ranch is a steakhouse where the locals
eat. The dagger is within 15 feet of Bob Taylor's Ranch House at 6250 Rio
Vista Street, Las Vegas, Nevada.

Hi SG
S dot Grogan (department of Treasury G man)
Ok putting it all together:
The dagger is the state of Nevada (shape)
The dagger is also terrorism.(middle east)
Kathleen never killed anyone with the dagger. She terrorized them. As you said to me she gave out her own form of Justice. She counter terrorized them.
In order to fight terrorism you need a place. Commander Palace or Command Place ear, connected to satallite. And that would be the Southern Nevada anti terrorist fushion Center at 6767 Spencer St. Las Vegas Nevada. But it does not stop there it is all connected by the Federal Government and Homeland Security.
Now Owens tomb was a blue box type dumpster with broken neon lights and cast away oil and rags. So that means another building. But seeing we are looking for the dagger of good that represents counter Terrorism and it is outside for all to see.
The Dagger is represented by the State of Nevada Flag Blue background with TM logo Sage Brush, Battle Born, and Silver State,star,& eagle. Which Flys under the American Flag. On the Flag pole of the Nevada State Building in Las Vegas called the Grant Sawyer office bldg 555 E. Washington Avenue.
(a while back in my notes I had pin pointed a flag pole.)
Why is your dagger the two Flags on the flag pole. Because on flight 77 that crashed into the Pentagon two people Wilson "Bud" Flagg and his wife "Dee" Flagg were killed. Bud Dee (Buddy time with Eric?) Eric? American. (They had a home in Las Vegas and a farm in VA.) Somehow you must have known them. Could it be your wife Pamela is "Buds" sister?
anyway that is my answer.
The dagger is the state of Nevada(shape) counter terrorism. And the Nevada State Flag that flies with the American Flag at the Grant Sawyer Bldg.

The dagger is located within 15 feet of the original McCarran Air Field
entrance.
The entrance was installed in 1948 and has two towers with a blue banner
of steel. Each tower is equipped with a propeller. Atop each is a set of
wings (outlined in pink). Underneath the banner, McCarran Field, is a steel
cabinet banner sign, "Executive Terminal". It is a work of art as it combines
masonry, steel and neon.

Until now.. We thought SG was directing us to a statue. We have received
no responses, so I guess we were wrong again. Frustrating, but maybe our
translation of hy T literally means "high tea".
New Guess: Within 15 feet of Medici Cafe & Terrace
@ Ritz-Carlton in Henderson, Nevada 89011
Author: after 3.15.10, if no correct guesses, new clues will be put out into the field, and a statue may have a role to play, but not until then.

ARIA Hotel (City Center)
reception area-- 133 foot silver cast of Colorado River
created by artist Maya Lin

Area above or within 15 feet of
the outdoor seating at Paymon's
Hookah Lounge, 8380 W. Sahara Avenue.
Just realized that there's also a Paymon's hookah lounge near UNLV and
airport.
Second Guess:
Area above or within 15 feet of the courtyard area at Mediterranean Cafe
and Lounge located at 4147 S.
Maryland Parkway.
It's alive near or under urinal yews sign. Tagger in
anchor racket. Wheel havoc seat hell catty on dough antsy owenyo oar rivet at
tired conch Lucy.

Hi SG
Every character in your book has some kind of disability.
So the Dagger is the Las Vegas Monorail Train.
And the facimile dagger is located at the ADA handicap sign 4th car VAn Handicap space to the left of the elevator to the Convention Center station parking lot.

Hi SG
My last e-mail to you might not have been too clear.
Owens code: 911 and 411 aka ADD DK Attention Deficit Disorder or ADDHD
The Manuscript MS Mutliple Scolrosis. It use to be Marchof Dimes for polio but since there is a cure for that it was changed.
so the dagger is disease. Which puts many into wheel chairs while others suffer with ADD or ADHD. Owen compares himself to Eric. Eric has ADHD. Owen has it too. Chase is told she will be a poster child.
Therefore we are looking at the International Hilton where Jerry Lewis's Marathon will be or has been held on Labor day to raise funds for the afflecteed to find cures.
Your symbol of the Dagger is the wheel chair sign in the parking lot adjcent to the hotel and the Las Vegas Monorail Station. where there is Handicap parking for Wheel chairs.
If you actually hid an artifact then that is what confuses me. The only thing I can compare the disease to in a monoploy game is the roulette wheel. Like the wheel of Fortune. Raising money to find cures. Jeapordy we are in, How to be a millionaire is to find cures, Monoply we are fighting the diseases to gain control over disease. If it is Uncle Money Bags then I have him here in my Las Vegas game.
That is my answer.

Oops!
SG
Please accept my apology I am at the wrong place. I went over my notes.
Yes I am saying MD Muscular Dystrophy which works on over 40 diseases including ADD. And the Jerry Lewis Telethon. (I just realized now the person you were talking about that had the correct answer but went in the wrong direction was me with Jerry Lewis.)
So I am back at Jerry Lewis I went in a complete circle.
The place is not the international Hilton it is South Point Hotel & Casino and the Labor Day telethon for Muscualr Dystrophy. (PH) in your name?) and it has to be the 2007 telethon because the 2008 telethon came after your book was published. In 2007 they raised 65 million for MD the numbers on the front of the dice on your cover. six on left 5 on right.
The dagger is money! (Money or Dagger to fight MD with research) bag of money,saddle bag or horse shoe. Money Bag. The charm or buddy icon in Monopoly so it has to be located on the Statue of Benny Binion or is the statue that is located at the South Point Hotel and Casino by the e QUEST tri AN ARENA near the escalator, on the ground, no pedastal, no signage or plaque, nothing giving homage to Mr. Binion. If I win I believe I will at least have a plaque made to tell everyone who this famous man
was and what a legacy he left in Las Vegas.

Dear Mr. Grogan
I feel my answer sent before this is correct. If it is then I would like to come to vegas and retrieve the token, money myself. You can do anything you want as far as publicity goes and I am sure it will be big. And I am sure you will tell me what you want me to do.
Please don't keep me waiting.
I am sitting on pins and needles.

While confident that the aged stone flight pillars at the old McCarran Air
Field are correct, we must keep on questing until we get an answer. I am
convinced that early airport history is involved in finding the missing
dagger. After all---- the story began with plane crash. So I re-deciphered the
first several chapters of book with that in mind. Amazingly...I am
beginning to see the story between the lines. After some digging.....this is our
follow-up guess.
The dagger is within 15 feet of the Gus Sabo Memorial Park (Plane Spotting
Area) near the North Las Vegas Airport at N. Decatur and N. Rancho Drive.
Reasoning: Story started with a plane crash at an executive jet terminal.
The NLV terminal was previously named Sky Haven and Thunderbird Field. Gus
sounds like Gas. Sabo sounds like Sago. Gus was a pilot who died in a plane
crash. The spotting area is separated by an iron fence and located in the
vicinity of two runways: 7/25 and 12R/30L. LV Metro Police heliport is
located near end of Runway 7/25. Spotting area has a bronze plaque dedicated to
Gus Sabo (1947 to 1999). North Las Vegas has Kyle Ranch and Craig Ranch.
NLV also had the state's first female mayor: Dorothy Porter who was a
businesswoman, dancer and actress. The airport has historical significance: it
opened and closed when the Pearl Harbor attack occurred. The terminal is
near Nellis Air Force base and Small Arms Range. There is also a Howard Hughes
and Wes Durston connection to the airport.

Why do I feel like I am playing some kind of game. Like Jeapordy? Wheel of Fortune and Monopoly? All games that can be played on slots in the Casinos! Why do I feel your quest answers are not going be something of the norm like regular hunts? You also say the answer is in the book. What do I see in the book? I see the history of Las Vegas exploding and growing into the Mega entertainment center of the world it is today. But I also see a part of Las Vegas that had to be cleaned up. The people who were raping the city. The mafia.
I do believe Kathleen is the main clue to the answer. Her and the napkin and the Sands towers. Plus her placing an empty glass over the napkin. And Owen calling it her Body Count.
Here is one thing I found Ray Washington a "cop" Mayor Goodman a lawyer, "Law and Order" take the letters "Ray Was" backwards SAWYAR (left over letters THING) SAWYER Thing. KATHLEEN SAWYER. A can replace E or visa versa in old English writing. WASHINGTON DAUGHTER IN-LAW. When I took all your words with dashes between them, on one page I got just that "Kathleen Washington's Daughter in Law". Well it could have been a mixed racial marriage but I thing it means "Law and Order" Justice.
So if we are playing Merv Griffins JEAPORDY (this word is used in Chunky D's demise) and Again picked up by Owen in a later chapter. It might mean your answer to this hunt is a Question. In the game Jeapordy it would go like this. Body count by Kathleen in Vegas Die. The answer would be in a Question. WHAT IS THE SCALES OF JUSTICE? (Kathleen represents Lady Justice Themis blindfold scales(you use a hat to hide her eyes) and sword)
The Sands Tower= Sands of Time(hour glass) The napkin= the body count (mafia)
But the number is 7 in the body count= G. The "G" could be God or Goodfella. Mayor Goodman who was the lawyer for the Mafia and now Mayor of Las Vegas who is making great strides to rebuild Las Vegas into a Mega place.
I want to say Owen represents the Government. Coming from
Denver Colorado, then to Biloxi Miss, then to Las Vegas Nevada. DC(two years) BM LVN? Department of Civil Business Management Las Vegas Nevada? OWEN? So the hiding place of the Justice dagger could be the Las Vegas Court House.
here I am at a loss because I cannot see if the Scales of Justice are outside on the building of the court house. Now if you did hide the facimila of the dagger then I have to give you Clay Stokes. Toy Scales K. (next generation young now) That is why Kathleen and Clay go so well together. She is Lady Justice and he represents the new Order of Justice a lawyer, a young lawyer.
Somehow Owen and Kathleens conversation is like a confession or explanation of how and why she did what she did. These guys the mafia raped her not just in Las Vegas but everywhere, they ignored what she stood for, even those in government raped her, police on the take raped her, but in your book you centered the rape on corruption in Vegas that had to go.
if I am correct then Hi -Jinx could be the Twin Towers in NY.
Owen represents emergency Help 911 and information 411. Those are his numbers.
In the history of Lady Justice there were three Goddesses she was taken from.
Themis was Kathleen which we use as the Justice symbol today. I believe chase is probably Justita with sword and scales no blind fold. and Nanna Lee is also Lady Justice but much older Ma'at. the first one Egyptian.
So here is my answer summary. Jeapordy style.
The body count on the napkin by Kathleen in the Quest Mystery Vegas Die.
Ans: What is the Scales of Justice?
where is the dagger you hid/ it would have to be at the Court house outside under the Scales of Justice, either a statue or scales embedded into the stone structure of the building. Maybe in a loose brick in the wall. Small ornamental scales? like a charm? You keep saying it is disguised or hidden changed somehow but we will know it when we see it. I just had a thought! wow me with a thought! could it be the scales of justice are minature in size? and you hid them behind a Bush? Located at the court house in las Vegas?
If you need it I could give you a run down of all your characters in your book. But let me say something about Eric a new OWEN. A fighter a scraper fighting for his rights. Am I close?
Fetters represents sexual fettishes. Washington is the old master. Chase works with him as a partner because she is one of the " Lady Justices".

It would be great enjoyment if I had more time to follow your thread of analysis...the concept of Lady Justice(s) is most intriguing. Had not thought in those terms. Certainly, Kathleen does dispense her brand of justice. But the dagger is not at the LV Court House. Keep on Questing. – Author

There is a quest irony at an off-ramp exit with an unusual insect (ant or
bee) soiree. The insect "goo" activity is spewing acid lye and creating
fatal odors of yew and iron in the air near a construction zone. A tie-on
advertisement overhang encased in tin is apparently ripped by a hay out-hoe
device. The ads' tear (now resembles a fat, hairy, hemp hat, hot-head
monster) is covered with yew (possibly the Bath's Pink dianthus evergreen). The
yew abnormality (aka "rampart" ) is off an eye-wheel tower. Now the really
hard part.....
Direct Clues: 1) Eric Kinkaid = Air reek in K ad. 2) It is good to speak
Spanish in Vegas, per mayor's secretary= spanish involved. 3) The briefcase
codes: 911 and 411= radio call numbers.
Guess: The dagger is located within fifteen feet of the radio
transmitter tower for KYDZ (1140 AM) children's radio at coordinates 36.16' 05"N
and 115. 02' 41"W.

Homeless Bob and classic car connection are still bothering us. "May Cone"
could translate to "Mecum" Auto Auction.
Today's guess:
Interstate 15 off ramp neon "hairy apiary yew head" Mecum sign near
Carroll Shelby Museum, 6755 Speedway Blvd, Las Vegas, NV 89115

It is the statue in the center of the courtyard inside the walls of
St. Joseph's Elementary School
Established 1948
1300 Bridger Ave.
Las Vegas, NV 89101

Hizzoner the old urban hippy finds Las Vegas to be a two edged sword.
Not quite the Temple of Zoom, but Zcastle at 3375 Glen Ave?
The knight has his sword, and the dagger is pictured in the window. I did not go into the store, but an armchair questor could find everrything without leaving home.


To the Author: the Dagger had to be dropped off the Hoover Dam.

OK, the dagger is inside the Centennial Time Capsule, in Centennial Park, 4th St and Lewis Ave.

Hello,
I hope this is the right place to send my dagger locations, so here we go....
Is the dagger at the Cartier Jewelry store @ the Wynn Resort in Las Vegas?
Thank you for our time, and I have never enjoyed a book as much as this.....kudos for the creative hunt and marketing...nicely done!
I reached that guess by noticing that in Mr. Grogan's CBS interview that he had two books in the background that were facing the camera, and not in the bookshelf...they were both written by Sue Grafton...who has won the Cartier Dagger award for her writing...I will keep on trying!! Have a great day...well, here's another guess: Is the dagger in the Bunker Cemetery in the Garden Of Honor or the Garden of Abraham? Thanks again, K----

You, Stephen Grogan, have to be the Dagger. Why you ask? I will tell you why. Who in their right mind is going to hide a weapon somewhere where someone can get hurt, or hurt someone with your silver Dagger. The pin is mightier than the sword. You being the writer can do whatever you want in the story because it is you who is writing it. Thinking beyond the black and white reality hits me like a dagger. It tells me no you didn't hide a dagger you wrote a dagger. So being that the Dagger has been located on the front of the book, Game over.
Thank you for a very fun book.
D------

The Dagger is located in the middle of Duck Creek trail, next to Sam Boyd Stadium.
I have another guess. The mayor has a package for me, and I need to go pick it up. Because he has the Dagger.

The Dagger is buried at Palm Mortuary.
if not at Palms Mortorary it is located here
Bunkers Eden Vale Cemetery

The Dagger is on Black Mountain under the letter B
OK, another guess, here is a link to my guess this has a picture of my guess of what I belive the Dagger is and Address also in the pics, The bottom pic is my guess the picture of the Flag Pole with the arrow the first two pics show location http://www.findagrave.com/cgi bin/fg.cgi?page=cr&GRid=5006642&CRid=1969734&

I was thinking further. Enough of the games. I know what your looking for. I can prove who I am. I have the birth mark on my inner left leg and the mark in my left hand.
But before you contact anyone and telling them you found me.
Please let me talk to you first. It's very important. Please listen to me, for once in your life don't make this mistake. Please listen to me Sir, CONTACT ME FIRST!
L-

The dagger is hidden in the side of one of the following gentlemen's briefcases.
Oscar Goodman
Norm Clarke- If I had to pick only one- it would be this mans briefcase.
Is that the correct answer? Of course at the moment I have no idea where either of these gentleman are.
L--

I have a guess as to where the Dagger is:
I think it is located at or within 15 feet of the Our Lady of Las Vegas Catholic Church statue (Mother Mary with Jesus lying in her arms) on the corner of Alta and Campbell.
S-----------
I live in California and just recently completed your mystery book Vegas Die. Great story. I won't have the opportunity to come out to Las Vegas and actively search but wanted to know if the dagger is hidden at the Palms Cemetery specifically near Oran Gragson's grave. I would like to come out to search but I work full-time. I can ask someone in Las Vegas to search on my behalf but I don't want them running in circles. Can you tell me if I'm looking in the right direction.
Thank you. S-W---
Thank you for getting back to me so quickly. I will keep trying. I have read the forums and it seems to me that they have gotten way, way tooo deep in terms of trying to decipher the codes in the book. The morse code suits only make sense for the first & second section of the book but in the third section the author adds the spades which blows the morse code theory out of the water as I don't think you would use the spades & hearts as a breaker. I thought that the Garden of Allah is a reference to a cemetery and the twins songs both refer to the heavens so I started researching cemeteries in the downtown area and came across a reference to Oran Gragson (play on words = Grayson); the past Mayor of Las Vegas as being interred at the Palms Cemetery. My first choice was the Woodlawn Cemetery but the only connection to the story I found at the Woodlawn Cemetary. I am still working the napkin code but what I don't quite have figured out yet is how the grafitti artists plays in the whole of the puzzle. Thanks again for your response ... Happily Questing .. :) S--

The Silver Dagger is located in the Williams Costume company store located at 1226 S. 3rd Street. It is on the corner of Colorado and 3rd. There is also the Dice Girls of the "El Rancho" mural on the side of the building. The dagger is located in the back rental section. I have also attached a picture. If this isn't the exact one, there were a few other daggers. Thanks, B-K---

Coral Blue Diamond Carpet
Winner's Circle
Las Vegas Racetrack and Ball Park

On the Pirate that is put out in front of (Furniture Outlet & Accessories) at the corner of Main street & colorado LV NV
A set of 3 rubber daggers with diamonds on the handle and attached to a belt

Ok, here we go again. This email contains multiple locations
First location 700 Twin Lakes Drive AKA 3333 W. Washington AKA Lorenzi Park. There are a couple of gardens there.
The Garden of the Pioneer Women (I believe built by The Garden Society of S. N. or possibly The Rose Society of S. N.)
Memorial Garden of the Four Seasons (Built (sponsered) by The Mesquite Club.) MESQUITE CLUB, INC.
A member of the General Federation of Women's Clubs (GFWC)
Serving the Las Vegas Valley since 1911
The dagger is a rose bush at or around those gardens. With some difficulty I have come up with some of the names of the Roses planted there but this is not a complete list. I choose ALL the rose bushes at ALL the property's mentioned.
The Judy Garland Rose
The Peace Rose
The Mr. Lincoln Rose
The Queen Elizabeth Rose
The Chrysler Imperial Rose
The Lowell Thomas Rose
The Silverado Rose
The Sterling Silver Rose
And all other Rose bushes not mentioned.
I also pick the Rose Garden at the Springs Preserve 333 So. Valley View Blvd. and any roses planted at or about that location.
For good measure I'll throw in the location of the Mesquite Club: MESQUITE CLUBHOUSE:702 E. Louis Ave, Las Vegas, NV (Just east of 6th Street) (That may of been a misprint on the street. it may be E. St. Louis Ave.) and any rose bushes at or about that property.
Lastly The Fifth Street School and any rose bushes on or about that property.
According to the 15 feet rule, If needed, I chose to break up all those gardens into 15 feet square sections and cover the entire gardens. I have supporting photos upon request.

Inside Williams Costume at the end of Colorado Street.
Inside the display case when you walk in the door and around the corner bottom shelve there are 3 daggers, metal inside sheaths with a decorative type red string wrapped around them the handles are possibly brass. It is $24.95

It is inside the Las Vegas Nevada centennial time capsule under the Monument to the Simulacrum at the historical 5th street school Centennial Plaza on 4th Street near Lewis Avenue in Downtown Las Vegas.

Since it's not the Rose "line", the next logical step is Cacti.
The dagger is located in the Cactus garden at or about:
Ethel M Chocolates
2 Cactus Garden Dr.
Henderson, NV 89104
I believe the dagger to be a type of Cacti:
Silver Torch
Silver ball
Silver bract
Silver crown
Silver dollar plant
Silver squill
Silver worm
As insurance I choose every type of Plant, Bush, Tree, Succulent, Algae, Fungus, or Cacti dead or alive on or about that address and adjoining grounds broken up into 15 foot squares, with particular focus but not limited to the Cactus Garden at or about that location.
Thanks for your consideration and the 25K. G---
PS Since ET8 chocolate I'm guessing that the above line of thought has been tried already, but nothing ventured...nothing gained. G--

Hi SG
I believe you made one Hard cover book of your book Vegas Die You have cut the pages out to make the center hollow and you have hidden the treasure in it. The treasure could be a key& chain of the Vegas sign WELCOME TO FABULOUS LAS VEGAS Nevada. A key to the city of Las Vegas which is usually given to a person by the mayor.
The Book is the Dagger and the Vegas Sign is the Treasure. If I were to come to Vegas I most likly would have to take my picture under the sign and present it to you as my finding of the treasure.
Green-Red Tartan Design Green- T RE DT and E sign. This is first clue to show me the gateway sign to downtown, identical to the one outside city limits.
But it changes Red-Green Tartan Bag. RE Direct Green T a rt and Bag. Goto Green T a rt and BAG. The new Center Green Transportation parking lot.Where people can now park their cars safely and have their picture taken under the 49 year old Welcome sign. Which can never be destroyed because it is on the National Register Historic list.
J--

Is the dagger the White Timbavati Lion named Quest at The Secret Garden of Sigfried and Roy at the Mirage Casino?
I know u said it wasn't in a strip casino but the garden isn't in a casino!

I think it is located at or within 15 feet of the Our Lady of Las
Vegas Catholic Church statue (Mother Mary with Jesus lying in her
arms) on the corner of Alta and Campbell.
S---

http://www.lasvegas2005.org/events/murals/
Funkhouse, 1228 S. Casino Center. Dray ("Interpretive Vision"). A 10' x 20' acrylic work on the north side of the building. A cubist montage celebrating historic and contemporary culture of Las Vegas.
R---

You, Stephen Grogan, have to be the Dagger. Why you ask. I will tell you why. Who in there right mind is going to hide a weapon somewhere where some one can get hurt, or hurt some one with your silver Dagger. The pin is mighter than the sword. You beeing the writer can do what ever you want in the story because it is you who is writing it. Thinking beyound the black and white reality hits me like a dagger. It tells me no you didn't hide a dagger you wrote a dagger. So being that the Dagger has been located on the front of the book, Game over.
Thank you for a very fun book.
D

Hi it is me again.
How dumb can I be, not being ever in Las Vegas I had no idea there was a downtown part of it. Of course there would have to be. Every town has a down town.
So I am going to take a wild guess.
Is The dagger a key to a safe deposit box which houses the 25,000 reward for finding the "eye" (Bugsey Siegel Eye) with was shot out of his head and landed 15 feet beyond his body.
(iN HIS POSSESSION AT DEATH HE HAD 408 CASH, A WATCH, MONEY CLIP, PAIR OF CUFF LINKS, A RING, AND A KEY CHAIN WITH 6 KEYS ON IT 1 BEING A HOTEL ROOM.THE OTHER KEYS WERE PROBABLY TO SWISS BANK VAULTS WHERE vIRGINA,(kATHLEEN THE BAG LADY)HIS DOLL OR mOLL PUT THE MONEY.)
HE COULD NOT HAVE HID THE MONEY AT THE VAULT BELOW BECAUSE IT DID NOT OPEN UNTIL 1999 BUT YOU COULD PUT THE MONEY THERE.
Deposit box or vault is located at the 24/7 Private Vaults 3110 E. Sunset Rd. Corner of Sunset Corporate Drive and E. Sunset Rd.
The Dagger says 4 I(eye) 25000 reward.
You have two keys and your eye gets the vault door open. I am not sure if I need to get the pin number to get in.411or911 might be it. Once in we would find the box 555 because Vegas Die says 911 dig 555 insert the two keys and get the money out of the box.

Inside locker #102 outside of the pool area at Imperial Palace.

Owen Magnum
Owen which makes One M or "I'm"
Magnum which makes "a gun" which makes: "I'm a gun" Smith Wesson
The word "Owen" is in Wesson. This will then takes us to:
Smith Wesson Advanced Tactical & Blade
(702) 997-5987
1725 S Rainbow Blvd, Ste 12, Las Vegas, NV 89146

I am from Pa and will not be traveling to Vegas anytime soon.
from the clues in the book--- is the dagger near or under a 'heart of stone'?'
the 'musical riff' signals a win--- a win of the quest mystery(page 75)
The 'sheriff' had the full manuscript--the 'chapter 10'--
a musical riff--- a 'CHER riff' Cher played at the mirage with her tour of 'heart of stone'.
J----
am I close enough?

Just like in the game of CLUE: the answer is "Mysty Marxx (my character) in the Conservatory with a Silver Dagger!"
Okay, well, attached is a .jpg photo with description that intends to depict the location (within 15 ft.), as I live in Florida. Since things are not always as they seam (pun intended) I have come to the conclusion that this is the location due to the fact that an 18 ft. tall, 2 ton, "silver dagger" is located in the small flower bed (shown) in the Conservatory at the Bellagio "Gardens" Hotel & Casino, in Las Vegas, at the entrance to the Spa Tower.
Silver: (noun)
1.
Chemistry. a white, ductile metallic element, used for making mirrors, coins, ornaments, table utensils, photographic chemicals, conductors, etc. Symbol: Ag; atomic weight: 107.870; atomic number: 47; specific gravity: 10.5 at 20°C.
2. coin made of this metal; specie; money: a handful of silver.
3. this metal as a commodity or considered as a currency standard.
4. table articles made of or plated with silver, including flatware and hollowware. 5. any flatware: The kitchen silver is of stainless steel.
6. something resembling this metal in color, luster, etc.
7. a lustrous grayish white or whitish gray, or the color of the metal: the silver of the leaves.
8. any of the silver halides used for photographic purposes, as silver bromide, silver chloride, or silver iodide.
9. Silver Medal
Dagger: (noun)
1. A short weapon used for stabbing.
2. A mark of reference in the form of a dagger; -- called also OBELISK.
3. A timber placed diagonally in a ship's frame.
SILVER DAGGER = Lustrous silver colored Obelisk (the mark of reference)
Thank you for your Consideration

Please forgive the multiple guesses.can't seem to trigger what I think I saw in the past to happen again (I keep getting foiled) so I am going to give this my best shot and hope that technically I can come within 15 feet of the dagger, and still be considered reasonable.
All of the following guesses are located within:
Location 1 Commerce Center at 3111 S Valley View, Las Vegas, NV:
#1. Within the Orkin rat trap located on the ground to the left, if you were exiting the back door/parking lot entrance of the Blue Ox West (Building K). If you are standing outside the Blue Ox in the parking lot and looking at the back door, the trap would be located several yards to the right of the back door and several feet over from the trash dumpsters in the corner.
#2. At the back entry door to Mastermind Tattoo Suite Q-104 â€" either right or left of the door where the Mastermind (or Snidely Whiplash/Teddy DiManna's eyes appear when triggered or in/on/around the dummy cam that occasionally sticks out from the capped drainpipe.
#3. At the front door of Mastermind Tattoo Suite Q-104.
#4. At the receiving (front or back) door of any of the following retail spaces or warehouses: N-103, N-102, N-101, N-104, N-105, N-106, N-107, N-108, L-115, L-116, L-117, L-118, L-119 either right or left of the door where the Mastermind (or Snidely Whiplash/Teddy DiM
anna's) eyes appear when triggered or in/on/around the dummy cam or housing that occasionally sticks out from the capped drainpipe.
The dagger is located within the large blue elephant at King Putt Mini Golf.? Either his trunk, his mouth or his rear end.

I am not sure how I should write this. You have me confused, not the book YOU.
First let me say this. The DAGGER is a standing Microphone used by stand up comics and singers in the early days. If you actually did hide the dagger you hid it at The Orleans Hotel and Casino where Jerry Lewis performs 5 weeks out of the year.br>
Your dead bodies in the book? No such thing. They are the roasted and cut up entertainers roasted by the Friars Club in NYCity. Chunky DiManna might be Jerry Lewis who was roasted last year. The other is Dean Martin who was roasted 22 years ago.

message: I'd like to make a guess as to the location of the dagger. My guess is that it is in one of the Smarte Carte storage lockers inside McCarran International Airport.

Mr Grogan,
2/3 is the Key which means where 50% there ! We have only 50% to go. Ever hear? "If your half way across a lake do not swim back?" A 2/3 Key can only convey a limted amount of information.........it uses a 2 and 3 pattern. I wanted to avoid talking you into sophicated math but you need to see the math behind the reasoning. Time for math:)
Lets look at what a 2/3 Key would do to 10 million phone numbers: 000-0000 equals 10 million and I phone numbers. Thats 10,000,001 .........0,000,000-9,000,000
Lets now use the 2/3 Key
(2)0+ (1) =21 (3)
This would gives us:
1-702-TWENTY1br>
Again with a 2/3 key where going to see only a few numbers we need to call:)
Your going to have a very hard time proving that 2/3 is NOT a phone number. Why? Here is the math:
1+ 2 =3
3+1 = 4
+________
4 3 7
Example
1 Dot
2 Dash
3 Space
2 out of 3 are used which ones? Dot Dash since they add up to 7. That would give us:
1 702-DASHDOT
1-702-DOTDASH
or We have:
Heart
Spade
Diamond
Where 2 out of 3 are used. But which one? Whatever equals 7
!-702-DIAMOND
The numbers to call:
1-702-TWENTY1
1- 702-DASHDOT
1-702-DOTDASH
!-702-DIAMOND
Since you use computers I suspect you are aware of RSA which uses a 2/3 "Key"
RSA uses 2 "Keys" one to "Lock" another to "Unlock" here it is being used to Lock on your puzzle:
http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/5683/57487060ls8.jpg
Do you have a public RSA "Key"? If so where would it be found? I do not like RSA a math forumla was given to the F.B.I. where any message can be read, told to me by someone in the NSA.
You want us to find your RSA Key in the book?
Mr Grogan Using the 2/3 Key and a math forumla I found the winning solution.. Short story:
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1 ECSTASY
2MDMA
3 XTC
1-702-ECSTASY
1-702- MDMAXTC
1-702-XTCMDMA